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    Coming off methadone

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    Post by Tom O Brien Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:26 pm

    There are a lot of myths about coming off methadone, e.g., methadone gets into your bones, so when you come down in your dose you get pains in your legs. lol! Others believe people should be kept on methadone for life. Maybe the pharmaceutical industry is putting out these myths, so that people stay on methadone and they make more money. cherry There is not a lot of money made from methadone, the real money is made, because methadone is a platform for doctors to prescribe other drugs, e.g. anti depressants, sleeping tablets, and valium. Of course if your on methadone long enough with nothing to do, you will be depressed and anxious and probably not be able to sleep, so you will look for other drugs to help, but then you end up on more drugs than when you were on heroin. santa

    I think one mil reduction of methadone per week is realistic, so long as your in counseling, and doing things to make your life busy and interesting.

    What do you think? affraid
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    Post by Dave Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:36 am

    That's food for thought, medicine is big business and the more they can get you to take the more there companies benefit, great post.
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    Post by deaf joe Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:00 am

    You can't blame the doctors for making money out of medicine. Fair play to them I say. When me ma was sick, they did a lot to help her. Doctors aren't paid enough. They keep people alive. Anyway people on methadone should be grateful to have free medicine Cool
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    Post by Dave Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:05 am

    Ah now don't get me wrong, I think doctors should make money but it's the mass producing companies that benefit at the end of the day, as much as it's free for people on methadone, someone somewhere has to be paying for it
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    Post by deaf joe Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:09 am

    What... you mean that medicine is corrupt? Come on... if thats the case, were all f.......d.
    I don't care who makes the money, as long as they make me feel better.
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    Post by Tom O Brien Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:05 am

    Come on deaf Joe.... sure doctors can make you feel better, but if it means pumping you up with drugs, its a bit fake NO?



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    Post by ainekav Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:09 pm

    I don't know much about this but I thought that the stories of the old brown phy were terrible, the things they did to peoples teeth and spine because they were laced with sugar.

    So at least that has been taken care of somewhat.

    but i'd love to know some peoples opinions on methadone, and how easy or hard they found to come off it

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    Post by deaf joe Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:56 am

    I know loads of people that tried to come off the phy but went back on the gear... fair play to anyone who stays off it Cool
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    Post by stej Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:26 am

    Joe don't know if you were on it yourself but you don't try to come off it you do or you don't i know first hand that SOME doctors profit from it but pharmaceutical companies always do all methadone was meant to be was a short term thing just a detox then they seen the profit so then they started a maintenance so you will stay on it so if that's how these doctors make you feel better they are just legal drug dealers.
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    Post by Dave Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:30 am

    stej wrote:Joe don't know if you were on it yourself but you don't try to come off it you do or you don't i know first hand that SOME doctors profit from it but pharmaceutical companies always do all methadone was meant to be was a short term thing just a detox then they seen the profit so then they started a maintenance so you will stay on it so if that's how these doctors make you feel better they are just legal drug dealers.

    Interesting point
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    Post by deaf joe Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:25 am

    stej wrote:Joe don't know if you were on it yourself but you don't try to come off it you do or you don't i know first hand that SOME doctors profit from it but pharmaceutical companies always do all methadone was meant to be was a short term thing just a detox then they seen the profit so then they started a maintenance so you will stay on it so if that's how these doctors make you feel better they are just legal drug dealers.

    You don't have to be on methadone to say what you think... sure doctors have to get paid for what they do and sure the pharmaceutical companies are helping to cure diseases... but hey its only my opinion Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool
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    Post by abbieruby Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:04 am

    Tom O Brien wrote:There are a lot of myths about coming off methadone, e.g., methadone gets into your bones, so when you come down in your dose you get pains in your legs. lol! Others believe people should be kept on methadone for life. Maybe the pharmaceutical industry is putting out these myths, so that people stay on methadone and they make more money. cherry There is not a lot of money made from methadone, the real money is made, because methadone is a platform for doctors to prescribe other drugs, e.g. anti depressants, sleeping tablets, and valium. Of course if your on methadone long enough with nothing to do, you will be depressed and anxious and probably not be able to sleep, so you will look for other drugs to help, but then you end up on more drugs than when you were on heroin. santa

    I think one mil reduction of methadone per week is realistic, so long as your in counseling, and doing things to make your life busy and interesting.

    What do you think? affraid

    I don't think it shud b a long term solution, Evil or Very Mad
    new people starting clinics shud be giving a short detox Shocked ,
    maybe 6mts max, Yes 1 ml a week cud be possible. xx Surprised

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    Post by stej Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:18 pm

    joe you dont have to be on methadone to say what you think but you do have to be on it to know what your saying of course we need doctors and pharmaceutical companies addiction i dont think is a diseases!!! but then that is just my opinion. Basketball Basketball affraid
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    Post by alec Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:27 pm

    deaf joe wrote:You can't blame the doctors for making money out of medicine. Fair play to them I say. When me ma was sick, they did a lot to help her. Doctors aren't paid enough. They keep people alive. Anyway people on methadone should be grateful to have free medicine Cool



    what do u know about coming of methadone:evil:
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    Post by irkinima Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:05 am

    Tom O Brien wrote:There are a lot of myths about coming off methadone, e.g., methadone gets into your bones, so when you come down in your dose you get pains in your legs. lol! Others believe people should be kept on methadone for life. Maybe the pharmaceutical industry is putting out these myths, so that people stay on methadone and they make more money. cherry There is not a lot of money made from methadone, the real money is made, because methadone is a platform for doctors to prescribe other drugs, e.g. anti depressants, sleeping tablets, and valium. Of course if your on methadone long enough with nothing to do, you will be depressed and anxious and probably not be able to sleep, so you will look for other drugs to help, but then you end up on more drugs than when you were on heroin. santa

    I think one mil reduction of methadone per week is realistic, so long as your in counseling, and doing things to make your life busy and interesting.

    What do you think? affraid


    Hello, we are the 4 students who will visit you in January.
    About, methadone.
    We don't know what methadone really does to the body or the mind. What we do know methadone is used as substitute for other addictions.
    Our opinion is that when the methadone helps to get clean of other drugs, it is good to give people methadone.
    But the danger of getting addicted to the methadone is, for us, also huge.
    So at the end of the recovery we think it should be best to reduce the methadone also.
    We also think, with all addictions, the people should get a propper aftercare!


    Kind Regards, and see you in January!

    Niki, Kirsten, Iris and Marijke

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